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		<title>By: Felix</title>
		<link>http://chrenyan.wordpress.com/2006/08/22/this-thing-called-tribe/#comment-1411</link>
		<dc:creator>Felix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 04:01:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its 2008 today and what you guys feared would happen to our country has happened,lives have been lost confidence in our nation eroded but more importantly is the fact that perpertrators of acts of evil(read political class) are the ones deciding the justice route.But this nation is resilient enough we will rise again to take our position as haven of peace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its 2008 today and what you guys feared would happen to our country has happened,lives have been lost confidence in our nation eroded but more importantly is the fact that perpertrators of acts of evil(read political class) are the ones deciding the justice route.But this nation is resilient enough we will rise again to take our position as haven of peace.</p>
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		<title>By: jkmangelete</title>
		<link>http://chrenyan.wordpress.com/2006/08/22/this-thing-called-tribe/#comment-524</link>
		<dc:creator>jkmangelete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 12:26:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yu guys! i wish yu could all just fold up or rather give up like i did long time ago. whatever tricks we try many kenyans are not likely to trully embrace the spirit of acting kenyan. 

for instance, over the last two years i have witnessed a funny trend which has continued to perfectuate itself every day in nairobi. if yu wish just take a ride with me on a friday evening and we start with thika road from choma zone through tana hills, roasters, blue springs, homeland all the way to KU, and yu will notice that kyuks have virtually chased away all other tribes living along this corridor from neighbourhood pubs. how? they continuously play those funny inaudible tunes of theirs which tend to be more related to waltz than any bantu music. in most cases it is a one man/woman guitar thing but nobody seems to get the mori to jump to heir feets for a jig. it is simply boring. the same senario is repeated in kariobangi area. 

when yu move to mombasa road, embakasi, mulolongo, or even south B/C, nairobi west or langata yu find people from all over the country mixing freely and enjoying a variety of music. 

move to kawangware and its environs and surprisingly the thika road senario is photocopied. whats up guys.

just associate with people who are willing to associate with others, be it in marriage, business, politics or in any other way of socializing and yu will never regrete. force ourself on some of these antisocial selfish goons and you will have just yourself alone to blame. i gave up after trying for quite long. now i am even teaching my small ones how to be careful with some people. for i am a true kenyan. it all belongs to us but if yu wish yu can isolate yaself and leave the rest together. shauri yako.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yu guys! i wish yu could all just fold up or rather give up like i did long time ago. whatever tricks we try many kenyans are not likely to trully embrace the spirit of acting kenyan. </p>
<p>for instance, over the last two years i have witnessed a funny trend which has continued to perfectuate itself every day in nairobi. if yu wish just take a ride with me on a friday evening and we start with thika road from choma zone through tana hills, roasters, blue springs, homeland all the way to KU, and yu will notice that kyuks have virtually chased away all other tribes living along this corridor from neighbourhood pubs. how? they continuously play those funny inaudible tunes of theirs which tend to be more related to waltz than any bantu music. in most cases it is a one man/woman guitar thing but nobody seems to get the mori to jump to heir feets for a jig. it is simply boring. the same senario is repeated in kariobangi area. </p>
<p>when yu move to mombasa road, embakasi, mulolongo, or even south B/C, nairobi west or langata yu find people from all over the country mixing freely and enjoying a variety of music. </p>
<p>move to kawangware and its environs and surprisingly the thika road senario is photocopied. whats up guys.</p>
<p>just associate with people who are willing to associate with others, be it in marriage, business, politics or in any other way of socializing and yu will never regrete. force ourself on some of these antisocial selfish goons and you will have just yourself alone to blame. i gave up after trying for quite long. now i am even teaching my small ones how to be careful with some people. for i am a true kenyan. it all belongs to us but if yu wish yu can isolate yaself and leave the rest together. shauri yako.</p>
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		<title>By: mwaniki</title>
		<link>http://chrenyan.wordpress.com/2006/08/22/this-thing-called-tribe/#comment-402</link>
		<dc:creator>mwaniki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2007 11:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>article well articulated.some comments show the animal in us[tribalism].
lets do what we believe is right, respecting other peoples tribes,races and cultures in our thinking,planning, jobs and  national resource allocations.then and only then can we say with one voice &quot;proud to be kenyan&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>article well articulated.some comments show the animal in us[tribalism].<br />
lets do what we believe is right, respecting other peoples tribes,races and cultures in our thinking,planning, jobs and  national resource allocations.then and only then can we say with one voice &#8220;proud to be kenyan&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Mchokozi</title>
		<link>http://chrenyan.wordpress.com/2006/08/22/this-thing-called-tribe/#comment-381</link>
		<dc:creator>Mchokozi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2007 14:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nice analysis~!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nice analysis~!</p>
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		<title>By: Mbutu</title>
		<link>http://chrenyan.wordpress.com/2006/08/22/this-thing-called-tribe/#comment-364</link>
		<dc:creator>Mbutu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Dec 2006 14:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is nothing contradictory between &#039;&#039;positive&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;tribe&#039;&#039; or &#039;&#039;tribalism&#039;&#039;. If one neglects their roots they become easily disorientated in this confusing world.
Q:Is there just one tribe in every country on earth European, Asian, American, or African except Kenya? Why is UK caled &#039;&#039;united kingdom&#039;&#039;, with its constituent tribes- English, Irish, Welsh, Scotch, emigre...?
Kenyans, lets be honest with ourselves- we must first accept, appreciate and nurture our rich diversity before we can accept we can belong together. The next step is adopting the best attributes of other cultures to enrich our own, and increasing move towards a Kenyan culture. We should also avoid being used to fight one another by those who profit from our engineered mistrust.
For example, I have travelled far in this country, and know that the economic recovery is taking place all over, not just Central. Roads, agriculture, fishing and other industries are being revived- so why do we want to isolate fellow Kenyans?? Lets steer away from useless propaganda.
Fact: poverty or prosperity of an individual or community in this country is not related to proximity to constituency or province of any one politician, be it Kibaki (Central- Othaya), Raila (Nairobi- Kibera), Tuju (Nyanza- Rarieda), Moi (Rift Valley- Baringo C), Kenyatta (Central- Gatundu S), Kalonzo (Eastern- Mwingi), Balala (Coast- Mvita).
Lets wise up and avoid being manipulated to degrade and hate our humanity and Kenyanness by people who profit from the mistrust between Kenyan neighbours. Remember, no politician is worth dying for. If they incite us to the point of fighting, they will retreat to the safety of their houses/hotel rooms where they will enjoy the spectacle.
Ask yourself- why do we glorify evil when we overhighlight (or is it glorify) one murderous gang in media (print and electronic) because of the ethnic group of its leaders? Which is the better of the repulsive, blood-thirsty gangs- Mungiki, Kamjesh, Jeshi la Mzee, Baghdad Boys, Msumbiji, Taliban,, or... Could it be that consciously or not we have fallen so low we believe some Kenyan lives are worth less than others?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is nothing contradictory between &#8221;positive&#8221; and &#8221;tribe&#8221; or &#8221;tribalism&#8221;. If one neglects their roots they become easily disorientated in this confusing world.<br />
Q:Is there just one tribe in every country on earth European, Asian, American, or African except Kenya? Why is UK caled &#8221;united kingdom&#8221;, with its constituent tribes- English, Irish, Welsh, Scotch, emigre&#8230;?<br />
Kenyans, lets be honest with ourselves- we must first accept, appreciate and nurture our rich diversity before we can accept we can belong together. The next step is adopting the best attributes of other cultures to enrich our own, and increasing move towards a Kenyan culture. We should also avoid being used to fight one another by those who profit from our engineered mistrust.<br />
For example, I have travelled far in this country, and know that the economic recovery is taking place all over, not just Central. Roads, agriculture, fishing and other industries are being revived- so why do we want to isolate fellow Kenyans?? Lets steer away from useless propaganda.<br />
Fact: poverty or prosperity of an individual or community in this country is not related to proximity to constituency or province of any one politician, be it Kibaki (Central- Othaya), Raila (Nairobi- Kibera), Tuju (Nyanza- Rarieda), Moi (Rift Valley- Baringo C), Kenyatta (Central- Gatundu S), Kalonzo (Eastern- Mwingi), Balala (Coast- Mvita).<br />
Lets wise up and avoid being manipulated to degrade and hate our humanity and Kenyanness by people who profit from the mistrust between Kenyan neighbours. Remember, no politician is worth dying for. If they incite us to the point of fighting, they will retreat to the safety of their houses/hotel rooms where they will enjoy the spectacle.<br />
Ask yourself- why do we glorify evil when we overhighlight (or is it glorify) one murderous gang in media (print and electronic) because of the ethnic group of its leaders? Which is the better of the repulsive, blood-thirsty gangs- Mungiki, Kamjesh, Jeshi la Mzee, Baghdad Boys, Msumbiji, Taliban,, or&#8230; Could it be that consciously or not we have fallen so low we believe some Kenyan lives are worth less than others?</p>
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		<title>By: donworry</title>
		<link>http://chrenyan.wordpress.com/2006/08/22/this-thing-called-tribe/#comment-326</link>
		<dc:creator>donworry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Oct 2006 11:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love your piece Chrenyan. It is indeed a real shame that after all these years educated and well travelled people are still unable to take a national outlook. They all pretend that it is all the fault of the politicians who fan hatred and mistrust but surely kikulacho si kinguoni mwako? The same goes for our pathetic media which cannot face the beast head on.

 Let us stop our hypocrisy and look inwards. It is only we the people who can tell our hate spewing politicians (who claim to represent us) to take a hike. No government on earth can legislate against what we feel inside. People must look at their own hearts. It is not beyond us because many of you know how relations in our country have cut across boundaries of race creed and clan and nationality.

Just in passing I believe that the name you mention above is actually Wanjiku. As the the appropriateness, perhaps that is the crux of the matter

Let me quote from a famous play by Saddam Mutiso

&quot;..........&#039;Tis but thy name that is my enemy;
      Thou art thyself, though not a Montague.
      What&#039;s Montague? it is nor hand, nor foot,
      Nor arm, nor face, nor any other part
      Belonging to a man. O, be some other name!
      What&#039;s in a name? that which we call a rose
      By any other name would smell as sweet;.......&quot;

thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love your piece Chrenyan. It is indeed a real shame that after all these years educated and well travelled people are still unable to take a national outlook. They all pretend that it is all the fault of the politicians who fan hatred and mistrust but surely kikulacho si kinguoni mwako? The same goes for our pathetic media which cannot face the beast head on.</p>
<p> Let us stop our hypocrisy and look inwards. It is only we the people who can tell our hate spewing politicians (who claim to represent us) to take a hike. No government on earth can legislate against what we feel inside. People must look at their own hearts. It is not beyond us because many of you know how relations in our country have cut across boundaries of race creed and clan and nationality.</p>
<p>Just in passing I believe that the name you mention above is actually Wanjiku. As the the appropriateness, perhaps that is the crux of the matter</p>
<p>Let me quote from a famous play by Saddam Mutiso</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.&#8217;Tis but thy name that is my enemy;<br />
      Thou art thyself, though not a Montague.<br />
      What&#8217;s Montague? it is nor hand, nor foot,<br />
      Nor arm, nor face, nor any other part<br />
      Belonging to a man. O, be some other name!<br />
      What&#8217;s in a name? that which we call a rose<br />
      By any other name would smell as sweet;&#8230;&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Wabz</title>
		<link>http://chrenyan.wordpress.com/2006/08/22/this-thing-called-tribe/#comment-316</link>
		<dc:creator>Wabz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Oct 2006 04:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While there is nothing positive about tribalism, there is nothing negative about celebrating ones culture and appreciating our differences. It is those differences that make Kenya the vibrant society that it is. While I am !00% Kyuk and enjoy mugithi, Mukimo and attending Itegas, I thoughly enjoy Isukuti, and lipala, dancing to &quot;Kenge kenge&quot; and their dancers are out of this world . We must appreciate that every tribe has contributed to what is considered uniquely Kenyan
What is destroying Kenya is the the politicization of tribes and ethnic jingoism. Politicians are using tribes to further their ambitions at the expense of Kenya. It is up to the youth who are the majority and have no stake in tribes, to discard these politicans or else we are doomed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While there is nothing positive about tribalism, there is nothing negative about celebrating ones culture and appreciating our differences. It is those differences that make Kenya the vibrant society that it is. While I am !00% Kyuk and enjoy mugithi, Mukimo and attending Itegas, I thoughly enjoy Isukuti, and lipala, dancing to &#8220;Kenge kenge&#8221; and their dancers are out of this world . We must appreciate that every tribe has contributed to what is considered uniquely Kenyan<br />
What is destroying Kenya is the the politicization of tribes and ethnic jingoism. Politicians are using tribes to further their ambitions at the expense of Kenya. It is up to the youth who are the majority and have no stake in tribes, to discard these politicans or else we are doomed</p>
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		<title>By: Gish</title>
		<link>http://chrenyan.wordpress.com/2006/08/22/this-thing-called-tribe/#comment-314</link>
		<dc:creator>Gish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Oct 2006 10:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here we go again. Tribalism, i googled and got this&quot;A cultural practice of behaving in a manner to benefit one’s own family or tribe, rather than doing what one individually believes is right, especially with respect to supporting political or public policy changes. www.doaskdotell.com/refer/vocab.htm&quot;. Is that it at least of Kenya?
I dont believe there could be possibly any excuse to vouch for tribalism, ukabila.  Positive tribalism i think is an oxymoron, kagz seems to belive in it pray do tell how this is? I wonder whether is is too much for us to be both our tribe and Kenyans at the same time? What am i first mount kenya mafia then kenyan or kenyan first?. I think am kenyan and all others is details...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here we go again. Tribalism, i googled and got this&#8221;A cultural practice of behaving in a manner to benefit one’s own family or tribe, rather than doing what one individually believes is right, especially with respect to supporting political or public policy changes. <a href="http://www.doaskdotell.com/refer/vocab.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.doaskdotell.com/refer/vocab.htm</a>&#8220;. Is that it at least of Kenya?<br />
I dont believe there could be possibly any excuse to vouch for tribalism, ukabila.  Positive tribalism i think is an oxymoron, kagz seems to belive in it pray do tell how this is? I wonder whether is is too much for us to be both our tribe and Kenyans at the same time? What am i first mount kenya mafia then kenyan or kenyan first?. I think am kenyan and all others is details&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kamau</title>
		<link>http://chrenyan.wordpress.com/2006/08/22/this-thing-called-tribe/#comment-313</link>
		<dc:creator>Kamau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 14:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we are experiencing the evolution of a new tribe called Kenyans. Culture is not static and all cultures are influenced and borrow from other cultures. The urbanization of Kenya is creating a new tribe that borrows from all Kenyan cultures and other external cultures.

The friction we see is between those that identify with our pre-colonial tribes and those that identify with the newer emerging tribe of Kenya. The Kenyan tribe identifies with all that is Kenyan and thus the nationalistic outlook as compared to the narrower tribal outlook. I see this schism in my own family, they say all the politically correct things however, their actions and unguarded comments make me realize what tribe they really identify with. 

I believe that eventually the Kenyan tribe will grow with future generations, unfortunately the Kenyan tribe is still a minority tribe and dose not has a large constituency. 

We need to be able to express economic and social interests in class terms and the left, center and right ideological divide that modern political thought is based on, not tribal affiliation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we are experiencing the evolution of a new tribe called Kenyans. Culture is not static and all cultures are influenced and borrow from other cultures. The urbanization of Kenya is creating a new tribe that borrows from all Kenyan cultures and other external cultures.</p>
<p>The friction we see is between those that identify with our pre-colonial tribes and those that identify with the newer emerging tribe of Kenya. The Kenyan tribe identifies with all that is Kenyan and thus the nationalistic outlook as compared to the narrower tribal outlook. I see this schism in my own family, they say all the politically correct things however, their actions and unguarded comments make me realize what tribe they really identify with. </p>
<p>I believe that eventually the Kenyan tribe will grow with future generations, unfortunately the Kenyan tribe is still a minority tribe and dose not has a large constituency. </p>
<p>We need to be able to express economic and social interests in class terms and the left, center and right ideological divide that modern political thought is based on, not tribal affiliation.</p>
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		<title>By: keru</title>
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		<dc:creator>keru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2006 15:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m proud to be Kenyan - for some reaon many of our politicians believe that if we keep saying that, we&#039;ll eventually act it, regardless of their lack of example, and our lack of conviction.

If perhaps we all work at being human, then I&#039;ll be proud that other Kenyans are Kenyans, and perhaps they&#039;ll be proud of me as well.

At the end of the day human beings want to belong somewhere and forget that even though we&#039;re different we are still part of the human race.

All I&#039;m saying is that instead of constantly uttering -mimi ni mzalendo- act it, and let evetyone else believe it. 

Less talk and more action is what we all need to practice - look at where Wangari Maathai is, her actions shout loud and clear!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m proud to be Kenyan &#8211; for some reaon many of our politicians believe that if we keep saying that, we&#8217;ll eventually act it, regardless of their lack of example, and our lack of conviction.</p>
<p>If perhaps we all work at being human, then I&#8217;ll be proud that other Kenyans are Kenyans, and perhaps they&#8217;ll be proud of me as well.</p>
<p>At the end of the day human beings want to belong somewhere and forget that even though we&#8217;re different we are still part of the human race.</p>
<p>All I&#8217;m saying is that instead of constantly uttering -mimi ni mzalendo- act it, and let evetyone else believe it. </p>
<p>Less talk and more action is what we all need to practice &#8211; look at where Wangari Maathai is, her actions shout loud and clear!</p>
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